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Re: Prince Henry Hospital Little Bay
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2007, 08:36:41 PM »
Toxic Avenger was one of my favourite films at the time.

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Re: Prince Henry Hospital Little Bay
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2007, 09:13:04 PM »
Oh ok kool, i'll jig it out. than Gary
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Re: Prince Henry Hospital Little Bay
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2007, 12:26:29 AM »
Hey Guys how is everyone doing? Just thought i'd write an update about our visit to the Prince Henry Hospital last night. A couple of my friends and i, we finally ended up going to that abandoned hospital building at about 11:00, 11:30 pm on tuesday night aparently it was also a full moon i didnt noticed though. When we got there it was the usual boring attitude like oh yeah it's dark and scary nothing new so we walked through the main entry of the pitch black hallway which leads to outside backyard type of area in the middle which is surrounded by other smaller hospital building which was the original hospital before the big one was built. Then one of my friends have got a strange feeling when we were standing at that outside area, he said that it felt like he has been there before in the sense that he knew the place like he has been a patient there a long time ago, it was really weird and strange because he started describing things about the hospital and certain places of the area that i don't think you'd find on the internet like that outside area was originally used for burial ground when the patients died and then when they build that new big building they buried dead bodies outside of it, he even showed where they cremated dead bodies and had the morgue as well. Now i don't know whether it was true or not it was still really weird, especially about the ghost nurse that haunts the place. He said that she was killed and pointed at the window of the room on the 2nd floor where she died which he said was the biggest room in the hospital with wooden floors.Then after walking around the area he said that she was either strangled or hanged because his neck was hurting like a rope burn and also got a major head ache as well. Later on when we left the place we had a look at his neck and he had a big red mark on the right hand side of the neck like it was strangled or burned because he kept complaining about the burning sensation on that area. Anyway back to the hospital, we followed him around the area because he said that he was getting a feeling that she was murdered and the reason for her still been around the area is because her body was never found and properly buried and that he felt or getting images as he described it that her body is still around that area which he said he can find and that really freaked us out and so soon there after we decided to leave and call it a night before it got any further and get any more weird. I've called him today and he said in the morning when he woke up that the mark he had looked like it kind of extended like a scratchmark down the right hand side of his neck but now it's all gone and he is fine. He also said that it's not the first time he experienced paranormal things back in his earlier childhood he had few unusual events happen to him. Anyway we plan to go back to that building during the day at some point over this upcoming weekend and check the 2nd floor which he described and see if its true or not. Oh yeah by the way when we went there we didn't have any flash lights or torches so we were walking around in the dark so i guess that could count for something as well as the energy i think is much stronger and doesn't git distracted with the light but i don't i could be wrong.
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Re: Prince Henry Hospital Little Bay
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2007, 01:36:46 AM »
Hope you guys enjoy the read
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Re: Prince Henry Hospital Little Bay
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2007, 09:26:55 AM »
Its always a good idea to be able to make daytime comparrisons


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Re: Prince Henry Hospital Little Bay
« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2007, 10:24:45 AM »
I enjoyed reading it.  It would be good if you could verify some of the information about the bodies.  Keep an eye out when they finish demolishing and start digging!

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Re: Prince Henry Hospital Little Bay
« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2007, 01:11:46 PM »
Sorry but I cannot participate in encouraging anyone to break the law.
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Re: Prince Henry Hospital Little Bay
« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2007, 01:25:19 PM »
I think you are doing nothing but asking for trouble going in unauthorized to a consruction/demolition site without knowing the area, in the dead of night with not even the basic of safety equiptment..ie torches.

You are just lucky that you didnt run into trouble or get yourselves injured...or worse.

Secondary to the safety/legal issues..

Its people who do this sort of larking about who make it very hard for those who are serious investigators to gain access to sites through the proper channels, and its THESE people who are the first to come calling for help and whinging when they do get into a situation they cant handle...janine
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Re: Prince Henry Hospital Little Bay
« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2007, 01:47:20 PM »
While your experiences are interesting, I can't help but agree with Lotsa and Christine.  You are taking an enormous risk with your own lives as well as with others lives.  Apart from the paranormal angle, there's simple OH&S issues.

For example, in the dark you cannot see warning messages left by demolition teams.

For example, if they have laid wires or something (e.g. for controlled demolition) you may dislodge them.  This could result in a simple case of a grazed knee or a broken leg.  Alternatively, it could cause a controlled demolition to go wrong and injure innocent people.  Alternatively, you could even cause a detonator to activate and main or kill each other.

For example you could be breathing in blue asbestos which is a carcinogen and will cause you to get cancer.  If you dont see the notices then you wont even know.

For example you could find that parts of the building are now unstable and could come crumbling down on you.  How do you determine which bits are actively being demolished?

For example, you may inadvertantly cause some un-scheduled changes which could alter the demolishment(?).  i.e. you might brush against a wall and some plaster may come off revealing previously undetected asbestos. You wouldnt know and would just encounter a deadly carcinogen.  the workers would not have expected the damage and would therefore not necessarily detect it either so they would be a significant risk.

Honestly, while I admire your spirit of adventure and quest for knowledge, you are putting yourself and others at risk and should not be doing this damn silly thing in this damn silly way.

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Re: Prince Henry Hospital Little Bay
« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2007, 02:34:58 PM »
Thanx everyone you all make some interesting points which i totally agree with thats why if we are going to go there again it's going to be during the day to see how safe it is in there and to confirm some other things.
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Re: Prince Henry Hospital Little Bay
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2007, 03:06:15 PM »
Still illegal and still tresspassing.
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Re: Prince Henry Hospital Little Bay
« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2007, 03:10:25 PM »
Ghost hunters admit guilt in trespassing
Oakland Tribune,  Feb 6, 2007  by Kelly Pakula
REDWOOD CITY -- Three would-be ghost hunters who claimed they broke into an abandoned Pacifica school in November in search of ghosts pleaded no contest Monday to trespassing.

Kenji Ananda Snow, Sharif Adam and Burhan Husseini, all 18, were arrested on Nov. 23 after Pacifica police caught them on the grounds of the abandoned Fairmont School.

According to Snow's attorney, Eric Liberman, all three defendants pleaded no contest Monday to a trespassing infraction, which requires them to pay a $188 fine. Liberman said the teens will not be required to pay the fine, as it is satisfied by two days the trio spent in jail following their arrests.


"The District Attorney saw the light and appropriately offered a trespassing infraction," Liberman said. "In truth ... they were three nice kids that were sort of playing around. They weren't out to commit a crime."

At the time of their arrest, all three suspects claimed they were members of the Idaho Spirit Seekers Club and were searching for ghosts at the school, according to the San Mateo County District Attorney's Office.

Marie Cuff, executive director of the Idaho Spirit Seekers Club, said the teens aren't members. She said Snow attended one of the club's meetings and participated in an investigation in Idaho. Liberman said Snow admitted to never being a "full-blown, full- fledged member."

Cuff said the 6-year-old, 36-investigator club only conducts investigations in Idaho, Montana and Oregon. She said the group always receives permission to enter a facility prior to beginning an investigation.

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Re: Prince Henry Hospital Little Bay
« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2007, 03:12:00 PM »
Never Trespass on Private Property

By Dave Juliano (davejuliano@theshadowlands.net)


Too many times we see amateur ghost hunters or kids who want a thrill break into abandon buildings and get caught.   Many of these people also vandalize the property.   Abandon houses and buildings are private property.  You are trespassing if you enter the property.   You also degrade the reputations of real investigators in the process.    I encourage anyone who would like to see real research continue to turn in anyone you know of that has trespassed or vandalized something while looking for ghosts.   Most police departments will take anonymous tips and stake out an area if they know there are going to be more illegal entries into a sight.   There are so many places that amateur ghost hunters and thrill seekers can go without trespassing but apparently part of the thrill is the breaking and entering plus the vandalism.   Time after time the finger gets pointed at this website as the reason for the vandalism.   There are disclaimers on all the pages telling people not to trespass.   The people who are responsible are the people who decided to vandalism and trespass, period.   Quite often true researchers and websites are blasted in the news but in rare cases like the one below, the journalists were responsible and respectful enough to get our side of an event.   I appreciate the opportunity they gave researchers to be heard on the subject. 


ďTeensí caper haunts real ghost-huntersĒ

Marissa Yaremich, New Haven Register Staff
08/26/2005

WEST HAVEN ó Itís often difficult enough for professional paranormal researchers to convince skeptics that the intangible world of ghosts and demons exists.
But add a group of thrill-seeking trespassers, stolen booze and the police, as happened here last week, and the fieldís credibility suffers tremendously, ghost hunters say.
"Itís upsetting because I put so much time into documenting (the paranormal) and going to these places ... that in a way this is a psychological blow," said Christine Kaczynski, an independent paranormal investigator who says she has documented ghosts and demons nationwide for 30 years.

Last week, police arrested 17 teenagers and young adults on various criminal charges in the break in at the West Haven Buckle Co. based on a Web siteís claim that the site, dubbed "Hell House," is haunted.

Some of the suspects also face burglary and larceny charges because they allegedly broke into a boarded-up restaurant near the Campbell Avenue buckle factory and stole numerous bottles of liquor.

They proceeded to indulge in the alcohol inside the factory as they waited for apparitions to appear, according to police.

With police now on heightened alert for trespassers, Kaczynski said sheís concerned that the groupís illegal actions will affect bona fide paranormal researchers visiting public locations.

"Those kids brought down our credibility a lot, because it will make it more difficult to investigate (public locations)," she said.

Kaczynski is also an organizational member of the New Haven Ghost Trackers, which always obtains permission before accessing sites of paranormal interest, she said.

John Zaffis, also a paranormal investigator and director of the Paranormal Research Center of New England in Stratford, said he too is disappointed by the youthsí so-called ghost-hunting.

"Iím definitely, definitely, not in favor of someone partying or drinking during investigations, as it alters your state (of mind). You need to be very careful during investigations," he said.

In addition to posing a safety danger in an unstable building, Zaffis said such searches mostly lead to unnecessary property damage.

The youths in West Haven, though, were not arrested for damaging property inside the buckle factory.

With more than 1,000 paranormal cases and 32 years of experience behind him, Zaffis said such arrests take away from the scientific importance of paranormal research.

"Itís important to have people with you who understand and are involved in this work, so you donít get into (such) major situations," said Zaffis, who is a worldwide lecturer and teaches basic ghost-hunting courses at the Paranormal Research Society of New England (www.prsne.com).

The site on which the West Haven youths allegedly based their search, www.shadowlands.net, is reputable among professionals, who often rely on its collections of urban legends, personal ghost sightings and hauntings as a resource, said Kaczynski, who has her own Web site, www.theparanormalfactor.com.

Shadowlands founder and co-director, Dave Juliano, added that "too often" the Web site gets blamed for delinquent actions, despite posting warnings against trespassing.

"I am very glad (the youths) were caught, and hopefully this will remind people to stay out of places unless they have permission" from the property owners, Juliano said in a written statement.

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Re: Prince Henry Hospital Little Bay
« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2007, 03:25:27 PM »
All souls that haunt this site can expect arrest
By Jenna Russell, Globe Staff  |  October 6, 2005

DANVERS -- They hiked uphill through a field, armed with a video camera in case they spotted anything eerie, a ghost, perhaps. Their destination was the old state mental hospital, which has attracted ghost hunters from around the country.

Matthew Doherty, 34, and his two friends had heard the stories about the haunted hospital, and they wanted to see it for themselves. They found a lone, strangely leafless tree; a cold breeze that seemed to come up out of nowhere; some noises that might have been wind.

And then State Police found them.

The three North Shore men were arrested and charged with trespassing; two of the three pleaded guilty yesterday in Salem District Court and agreed to pay fines and court fees, avoiding the maximum penalty, three months in jail. The third case was continued without a finding.

Danvers State Hospital is a magnet for practiced ghost hunters and dozens of others, like Doherty and his companions, who described themselves in court yesterday as merely curious about the supernatural presence supposedly lurking within the spired, Gothic brick buildings. Such curiosity, in the face of health and safety risks facing interlopers on the property, has been a problem for the state Division of Capital Asset Management, the caretaker for the sprawling 500-acre property, since the facility was emptied of its last patients a dozen years ago.

Other closed state mental hospitals in Massachusetts have attracted thrill-seekers in the decades since patients were shifted to smaller, local treatment centers, part of the national movement away from large state mental hospitals. The suffering of the patients who once lived in these hospitals interests ghost enthusiasts, who believe such settings to be full of troubled and restless spirits.

In Danvers, State Police, aided by 24-hour security guards hired by the state, have made 120 trespassing arrests on the state hospital property in the last five years, a spokesman said.

Doherty and his companions, Ross Gordon of Peabody and Matthew Selecky of Salem, said they are not ghost-hunters. They said they hoped to submit their videotape to a television show that features investigations of the supernatural.

''There was a very negative vibe," Doherty said of the mood on the property. ''It felt like we weren't supposed to be there."

On the edge of the property yesterday, the silence was broken by the buzz of insects in outlying fields and the rush of distant highway traffic. A mattress lay abandoned, and wooden ''No Trespassing" signs hung on massive trees that line a dirt path uphill to the abandoned buildings.

The steady stream of unwanted guests at the hospital may have been spurred by a recent horror movie, ''Session 9," now out on DVD, that was filmed there. It may also reflect the growing number of websites run by hobbyists of the paranormal, many of which feature Danvers State Hospital as a supposedly haunted place.

Christopher Balzano, a 30-year-old librarian from Woburn, runs a three-year-old website, Massachusetts Paranormal Crossroads, which records both ghostly legends and more scientific reports of possible paranormal activity. Reports from visitors to the old Danvers facility are frequent, and sometimes include photographs of orbs or streaks of light, said Balzano, who has not visited the property and advises website visitors not to trespass. He said he looks critically at all reports and believes that the photographs may be explained by conditions in the deteriorating buildings, rather than paranormal phenomena.
The attraction of the old hospital has grown as stories about it have circulated, he said, creating a snowball effect. The evocative visual details of the place -- some trespassers report old gurneys with straps left abandoned in hallways -- contribute to its popularity with ghost-chasers and its power to scare them, Balzano said.

''It's probably the most haunted place in Massachusetts, as far as the strength of its reputation," he said of the Danvers site. ''To me, the most convincing thing is what went on there on a daily basis. How could a place that experienced such sadness not leave something behind?"

Some of the recent trespassers may be seeking one last thrill, realizing that the hospital may not be abandoned for long. This month, the state hopes to finalize a deal with a Virginia development company that plans to buy the Danvers property for $18 million and build about 500 apartments and condominiums, a state official and a company representative said. Only a sizable portion of the Kirkbride Complex, the architectural centerpiece of the facility, will remain.

The new development, by AvalonBay Communities Inc., would also include commercial space, acres of open land, and a hilltop memorial to former hospital patients that will be open to the public. The development will not be gated or guarded, and anyone interested in seeing the restored historic building will be able to drive to it, said Scott Dale, vice president for development.

A well-lighted, perfectly restored Danvers State campus, complete with a swimming pool and a recreation center, may leave ghost hunters less than titillated. But it will not stop them from finding other spooky venues to explore, Balzano said.

''When you're out investigating, whether you see something or not, there's a heightened sense you have that's about as big a rush as you can get," he said.

Jenna Russell can be reached at jrussell@globe.com
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